tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273883632460433399.post4614440537702153620..comments2024-03-28T02:33:20.668-07:00Comments on Earwigoagin: Concours de Plans pour Moth Classique lancé par "Le Chasse Marée"Tweezermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06559514473959503645noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273883632460433399.post-13585365103073953612017-01-14T14:32:11.443-08:002017-01-14T14:32:11.443-08:00Marc,
Made the changes to the post to properly cr...Marc,<br /><br />Made the changes to the post to properly credit you for the photos. Tweezermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06559514473959503645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273883632460433399.post-48632464681821939122017-01-08T11:30:05.089-08:002017-01-08T11:30:05.089-08:00Just to congratulate you for the quality of the in...Just to congratulate you for the quality of the information and to confirm that I took all the pictures of the post, during the race organized in Suce sur Erdre in September 2001. <br /><br />I just created a group on Facebook called "Moth50". Please be free to register yourself on it. <br /><br />All the best<br /><br />Marc MorellMarchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10319623441082563005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273883632460433399.post-54042045542885916982016-05-25T15:14:28.480-07:002016-05-25T15:14:28.480-07:00Thanks Chris,
Particularly with the Classic Moth,...Thanks Chris,<br /><br />Particularly with the Classic Moth, where many are amateur built, there was definitely some discrepancy between registered numbers and numbers that were built. (In the U.S., for example, we had Boy Scout Moths which were used in summer camps but were never registered for racing.) Conversely, plans were sold with a registration number but never built -- I estimate maybe a 10 to 1 ratio of plans sold to boats built. Sometimes blocks of numbers were assigned to a builder but never used up. It all adds up, as you point out, to an incorrect population count, most likely an inflated number.<br /><br />When reading between the lines, the author from Chassse_Marée, which is the French traditional boating magazine, was upset at the loss of experimentation and amateur boat building (which this Classic Moth design competition was an attempt to bring back) and not so much concerned that most French dinghy sailors were not gravitating towards something for "thrill seekers" like a 29'er or 49'er or foiler Moth.<br /><br /><br /> Tweezermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06559514473959503645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273883632460433399.post-18152775859768900552016-05-23T17:35:15.371-07:002016-05-23T17:35:15.371-07:00PS - yes, the Banshee was at the America's Tea...PS - yes, the Banshee was at the America's Teacup regatta, and finished the racing equal on points with the Laser. The Force 5 wasn't there.<br /><br />Chris Thompsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16997362573458872831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273883632460433399.post-16609164527513535412016-05-23T17:33:43.032-07:002016-05-23T17:33:43.032-07:00I'm late to the party, but thanks for posting ...I'm late to the party, but thanks for posting the article and thanks to Dominique for providing the translation and information.<br /><br />It was interesting to see the article claim there were nine thousand International Moths in Australia and about 4000 in the UK, Germany and Switzerland. The writer then asked "is there a lack of amateur thrill seekers in France?"<br /><br />It's funny how things like this, which put our fellow sailors in a fairly unflattering light, often pop up. The claim about Australian Moth numbers is completely misleading; there were just 320 registered Moths in the country at the time the boats that were being discussed were around, and the number was dropping fast. The Australians are also less likely than the French to get their thrills by sailing cats - something that Australians sometimes use to accuse other Aussie sailors of lacking the thrill-seeking spirit.<br /><br />Sadly, such put-downs of sailors seem to be all pervasive among sailing journalists and the industry these days. Such a lack of respect for other people on the water must be a major cause of the fading numbers in the sport.Chris Thompsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16997362573458872831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273883632460433399.post-74155927886310804732015-11-13T12:32:21.257-08:002015-11-13T12:32:21.257-08:00Alden,
The Sneak Box has a dish shape where the p...Alden,<br /><br />The Sneak Box has a dish shape where the pre-WWII Moths in the United States ended up with scow bows and a V-shaped hull. The French Nantais also has a V-shaped hull. This is not to say the Sneak Box didn't have some influence over the original Van Sant Mothboat but nothing has been written to indicate that was the case.Tweezermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06559514473959503645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273883632460433399.post-4400195064945925352015-11-13T12:26:51.183-08:002015-11-13T12:26:51.183-08:00Tillerman,
Right on both counts. I'll make th...Tillerman,<br /><br />Right on both counts. I'll make the corrections. I wish I had the original article on the Tea Cup from OD-OY in my possession but I don't, so in this case I decided to wing it while typing away. Thanks for spotting it. I'm almost certain the Banshee was there but, again I'm going from memory - not 100% guaranteed for accuracy.Tweezermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06559514473959503645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273883632460433399.post-40203572673994911752015-11-13T12:04:20.076-08:002015-11-13T12:04:20.076-08:00Fragniére's Moth design is also known as "...Fragniére's Moth design is also known as "Microcosmos". This design was the 1955 European Moth Champion.George Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15375041586503979232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273883632460433399.post-18017260437815844632015-11-13T00:36:20.355-08:002015-11-13T00:36:20.355-08:00The red and gray moth in the first photo makes me ...The red and gray moth in the first photo makes me wonder whether the ancestor of all Moths is the Barnegat Bay Sneak Box.Alden Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06601028197387499096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273883632460433399.post-67195676375355894142015-11-12T19:36:54.806-08:002015-11-12T19:36:54.806-08:00The America's Tea Cup Regatta was in 1970. The...The America's Tea Cup Regatta was in 1970. The Laser was certainly there and the Banshee may well have been. But are you sure the Force 5 was? According to Wikipedia and the Force 5 Class website, the Force 5 was designed in 1972.Tillermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00639738519386820997noreply@blogger.com